12 Replies Latest reply on Feb 14, 2018 10:41 AM by Rich Fagioli

    GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?

    Mark Jackson

      Hello everyone,

       

      Yes I know Quadro cards are the "officially supported" cards for SolidWorks and Visualize, and I have a P5000 in my #1 workstation. I want to upgrade another workstation and just thought I would ask for some opinions between the 1080 ti and P4000. The specs on the 1080 ti blow the P4000 out of the water on paper, and they can be gotten for about the same price.

       

      Your thoughts and opinions on this would be greatly appreciated.

       

      Thanks,

      Mark

        • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
          Rob Rodríguez

          If you're using the machine with the GTX card for CAD I would say no.

           

          This is the age old problem.  Gaming cards offer more performance than the CAD card but can cause issues with CAD software.  The CAD card costs more, but is more rock solid for CAD usage.

           

          Wouldn't it be great if Nvidia could give us a card that worked for both CAD and gaming at the gaming card price.  Us CAD people have been getting screwed by this for years.

          • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
            Chris Cunningham

            It is also my understanding the the "P" cards are able to make use of the de-nosier while the gaming cards are not able to. Something to consider if you are planning on upgrading the software.

              • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
                Mark Jackson

                That could be Matt. I believe it is Pascal architecture is what the de-noiser needs. The 1080 ti has Pascal architecture. Maybe one of the SolidWorks guys can answer that for us.

                  • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
                    Brian Hillner

                    Hi Mark - great to finally meet you in person @SWW. (Same with you, Matt!!)

                     

                    We never receive GeForce cards to benchmark test, but I did just receive a new Titan V. I can confidently say the new AI Denoiser will for sure work with that card, and likely any Pascal-based GeForce card. I have not tested any other GeForce card, so I cannot say which of generation of GeForce cards the new Denoiser will work with. If it follows the same compatability as the Quadro cards, then Kepler-based and Maxwell-based GeForce cards should also work with the Denoiser. You just have to have a minimum of 4GB ram on the GPU for the Denoiser to work.

                     

                    When the AI Denoiser is publicly available (2018 SP3), I would like for the Visualize community to help test the wide range of GeForce cards to comment on compatibility with the Denoiser.

                     

                    At the risk of being redundant, there is a time-bombed special of 30% off Quadro P4000, which is blazing fast with the new AI Denoiser:

                     

                    SAVE 30% off a Quadro P4000!! Visit the NVIDIA online store and use code P4000SWV30 if you’re located in the United States or P4000SWVEU if you’re in Europe, or purchase through PNY at www.PNY.com/SWW2018.

                • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
                  Ron Bates

                  Upcoming denoiser is supported in Kepler series cards (with at least 4 GB of Video memory) and up.  So Kepler, Maxwell, and of course latest Pascal and forthcoming Volta are supported.

                   

                  To the original question of a Workstation class card VS a Consumer (gaming) class card... think of it this way...

                   

                  When you buy a workstation class card, you are paying for a lot more pre-release testing before the card even goes out the door, a support life-cycle (driver updates) in the range of ~10 years, actual bug fixes if needed, and continued testing and certification by NVIDIA and SW for years.

                   

                  All of this of course takes a lot of resources...

                   

                  When you buy a consumer class card, as my wife and I sometimes tell our 6 year old: "You get what you get, and don't get upset"

                   

                  Hope that helps

                    • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
                      Mark Jackson

                      Agent 86 says to agent 99, "missed it by that much!" I have two workstations with K4000 cards that only have 3 GB video memory. Bummer. I use them to render static images with Visualize Standard.

                       

                      I was hoping someone in the Visualize community that does run a 1080 ti might chime in and let us know what their experience might be. I know several people who do use them for CAD with SolidWorks and say they work pretty darn good.

                    • Re: GTX 1080 ti or Quadro P4000?
                      Dave Goetsch

                      Well...  Just a quick reference to Puget Systems test of some Quadro cards in Visualize.

                       

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                      I'm running two 1080 TI's and my time for the above 1969 Camaro render is 77 seconds.

                       

                      Performance is much better than one GP100 @ $7,500.00 and nearly as good as two GP100's @ $15,000.00

                       

                      I bought my GPUs July of 2017 for $750.00 each so total cost $1,500.00 (yes, 1/10 the price!)

                       

                      I know why many people want to use the officially supported cards but for me, a one man shop, it made no sense. I am a CAD guy too and I use Solidworks extensively. I've never had any problems running GeForce GPU's in Solidworks or Visualize. A simple registry hack enables RealView graphics for GeForce GPUs in Solidworks that DSS has chosen not to enable by default.

                       

                      Just my 2 cents........